Episode 445

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Episode 445

Postby xoxoxoBruce » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:29 am

Tied up neatly with a lovely bow. Well done Sir, very well done.
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Re: Episode 445

Postby Pastor_Mac » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:29 am

Can we assume the Washington Naval Conference took place in this universe? I suspect so as Scott as much as hinted about the Japanese snub which they sought to overcome and they did by investing heavily in air power. Like our timeline which the Japanese developed aircraft carriers, we really haven't seen Japanese airships in this world. What we do know is the Flying Cloud has apparently Japanese modified German technology. I don't believe this has been fully understood. We have Iwamoto still an unknown qty. He's a top notch diesel mechanic who knows things about the vessel that come from very close proximity to the origin.

And, there's still Michaelson & who he is connected to back at the Admiralty or even deeper in Whitehall. It's. obvious Michaelson & the Admiralty office in Sydney do not get along in much the same way that Michaelson & Everett are at odds. But, interestingly, the last 2 seasons have shown these two warily working together as they both recognize there are bad things afoot in the Pacific which could spiral out of control quickly and flame into a war even more catastrophic than the Great War. Both captains are acutely aware of subjects of the Crown who show little interest in loyalty to His Majesty's Government and quite possibly even to the highest levels. Michaelson seems aggressive in bringing these individuals down. Everett does not yet possess Michaelson's knowledge but Everett is wise enough to know he does not have a peerage & must tread extremely carefully.

So where do we go from here? We still have the British Union, the Japanese, Germans, White & Red Russians and a missing American scientist. I have to figure the Japanese are about to start making their presence known. Is the scientist actually in Japanese hands? I believe the Rising Sun is about to come over the horizon.
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Re: Episode 445

Postby Kona » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:19 pm

Absolutely, the Japanese factor is coming increasingly to the fore, as could be expected in both our timeline and the R-505’s. The U.S. has taken a lot of heat for using The Bomb, but the most casual inspection of history shows that, given the opportunity, the Japanese, Germans and Russians wouldn’t have hesitated to use it on their enemies – preemptively, and not just as a last resort as we did.

Yes, there are a lot of incomplete threads still awaiting resolution, and a lot of conflicting personalities and objectives roiling the plot. Everett’s plucky crew, now reunited with its previous half and augmented with some unlikely additions and allies, has plenty of adventures at the center of the world stage ahead.
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Re: Episode 445

Postby phillies » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:48 am

We used the bomb more or less as soon as we got our hands on it. Note the recent very very hard SF novel The Berlin Project in which the good researchers win in 1941 so we get the bomb in early 1944.

Kona wrote:Absolutely, the Japanese factor is coming increasingly to the fore, as could be expected in both our timeline and the R-505’s. The U.S. has taken a lot of heat for using The Bomb, but the most casual inspection of history shows that, given the opportunity, the Japanese, Germans and Russians wouldn’t have hesitated to use it on their enemies – preemptively, and not just as a last resort as we did.

Yes, there are a lot of incomplete threads still awaiting resolution, and a lot of conflicting personalities and objectives roiling the plot. Everett’s plucky crew, now reunited with its previous half and augmented with some unlikely additions and allies, has plenty of adventures at the center of the world stage ahead.
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Re: Episode 445

Postby Kona » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:11 pm

We can imagine any number of alternative histories, and the imagined outcomes may be entertaining but not particularly instructive, because of something we call the butterfly effect. History hinges on many very small points and redirects to unpredictable destinations.

I wasn’t in the room, but it’s my understanding that using the bomb was not a foregone conclusion. The sheer horror expected to be inflicted gave the statesmen responsible for the decision much pause. Weighing against that was the obvious intractability of the Japanese, who were promising to fight not only to the last military man, but the last man, woman and child as well. The civilian workers on Saipan chose to commit suicide en masse rather than be captured. The civilians.

In addition, it was understood that the ability to create nuclear weapons would eventually be discovered by other countries, including Russia. The US needed to show them that we not only had the bomb but we had the resolve to use it if necessary. Would we have used it on Germany if we had it in time? What would our world look like today if we had? Very difficult to predict, since every action in history, no matter how large or small, has dramatic consequences down the stream of time.
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